Message #1484

From: Eduard Baumann <>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: {8,3} 5 layers solved :)
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:17:46 +0100

I agree with you.

My thought was to use the log file instead of macros, constituting sequences in a excel sheet.
Not heavy programing only replace numbers for applying the sequence in other places.


—– Original Message —–
From: Melinda Green
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: {8,3} 5 layers solved :)


I hope you realize that the puzzle-makers do it simply for the love of creating something new and wonderful, and sharing it with the world.

As for a Magic Tile HOF, I’d be fine if anyone wanted to extend the Superliminal wiki HOF to include Magic Tile and other puzzle records.

Regarding log files, I feel that it shouldn’t matter how you produce them, so if you want to use other methods to do that, it would be fine with me.

One interesting question is what to do when someone write a program that solves one or more puzzles. Does that mean that they have solved those puzzles? Don did this for the cube in N dimensions. Does that mean that he has solved an infinite number of different puzzles? Or how about optimization software that produces new shortest records from long human solutions? I feel like saying yes to all of these questions though I respect other opinions that disagree.


On 3/2/2011 1:40 PM, Eduard wrote:

No macros in MagicTile!
No HOF for MagicTile?
There is the possibility to write sequences in the log file.


— In, "Andrey" <andreyastrelin@…> wrote:
With the saving of log files I finally was able to finish {8,3} (12 colors) with 5 layers. Solution went smoothly, without development of any special operations. Only some algorithms from 3^3 (3-cycle of corners and single corner twist) were used at the last stage. Log says "3846 twists", 1000 of which is scrambling.
Thank you, Roice! Only thing is that it’s better to have Ctrl-S for Save and alternative command for Save As. Now if one save position frequently, he has to find his log file and then confirm overriding of it…