Message #1970

From: schuma <mananself@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 24cell FT
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:38:02 -0000

Congratulations! You made it!

This may be the longest solution for any twisty puzzle in history. I don’t think "length does not matter at all" for this solution, because this is a historic record. It reminds me of the story of Graham Parker, who solved the Rubik’s cube after 26 years of trying:

<http://gizmodo.com/5129307/man-solves-rubiks-cube-after-26-years-of-trying-weeps-in-victory>

Even he may not have made 10 million twists. This is not about efficiency any more. It’s more about enthusiasm and determination. Of course it’s much easier with macros, but it’s still a record.

Congrats again!

Nan

— In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" <baumann@…> wrote:
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> I have solved now (as third person) the "24cell FT" with much more
> twists (about 10 millions) than Nan and Andrey. So the log file is big:
> 90MB. I had to zip it before sending it to the 4D cubing group. My log
> file <http://l.yimg.com/kq/static/images/yg/img/doc/zip.gif>
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> For me the "24call FT" is the most beautyful of these virtual 4D
> twisting puzzles (and similars). It is the only regular convex 4D
> polytope which has no equivalent in 4D. The face turning mode is the
> most natural one. "24cell FT" is about 5 times more difficult to handle
> than the 3x3x3x3 and less lengthy than the 120cell.
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> — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" <baumann@> wrote:
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> > I’m still solving with great pleasure the "24cell FT". I have solved
> 96 2C face centers, 96 3C edges and 96 2C face sides sofar and I’m
> approaching the 50% of the puzzle. My move count is 390’000 and the
> elapsed time 42h45. Nan has reached 54’000 moves and 9h25 for the whole.
> And Andrey is even better. I will use estimated 1 Mio moves to finish. I
> think that Nan and Andrey must use external computer program power and
> advise or do extremely sophisticated setup’s. Is that so?
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> > — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" baumann@ wrote:
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> > > Work with 3Cs - I have also finished 5 cells of 24. Ed, :)
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> > > — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" <andreyastrelin@> wrote:
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> > > > I’ve also finished 2C centers. It took about 570 twists (and no
> macros at all). Now work with 3Cs - finished 5 cells of 24. Comparing
> with 120-cell it looks not difficult at all - but the most interesting
> things are still ahead :)
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> > > > Andrey
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> > > > — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" <baumann@> wrote:
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> > > > > I have finished now the 96 2C face centers of the 24cell FT. I
> needed 8121 moves compared to the about 800 moves of Nan for the same
> thing. This is a little bit frustrating but not enough to stop my
> efforts. Now I tackle the 96 3C edges. I have already a 3 cycle. The
> same 3 cycle executed 3 times gives a 3 cycle for the 2C face-sides.
> > > > >
> > > > > — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" <baumann@> wrote:
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> > > > > > I have started to solve ï¿½24cell FT". Until now only Nan Ma
> did it in about 54’000 moves.
> > > > > > Forst I place at home the 2 colored face elements. There are
> 96. For 52 faces I needed 5300 moves. Replaying the log file of Nan I
> see that he used only about 750 moves for all faces. Most of his moves
> are dedicated to place the 2 colored face-corner elements different from
> the face elements (13’000 to 54’000).
> > > > > > My technic consists of using a narrow 3 cycle for the faces
> and a narrow 2 element flip for faces. I estimate that I will use about
> 10’000 moves for the faces only.
> > > > > > I observe also when replying Nan’s log file that only the very
> first moves show an animation.
> > > > > > Can anybody help me to understand these things? ;-)
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