Message #2226

From: Brandon Wong <>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MC4D: CFOP method test [1 Attachment]
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:47:14 -0700

Dunno.  Still kinda don’t get how to link the 4D cube back to the 3D cube, and I can’t visualise how the F2L pieces move around on a 4D cube.  I basically only used Fridrich, but for the last layer, I suggest using commutators (Beyer-Hardwick method could be helpful).  btw, my times for 3^3 cube have dropped down a few seconds, and I got a new pb on

Good luck with the last layer,

From: Ray Zhao <>
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: [MC4D] MC4D: CFOP method test [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from Ray Zhao included below]
Results for CFOP/Friedrich method:
Complete first two layers (2/3 of 3^4) in 377 moves, not bad.
last layer #moves=f2l #moves (total around 650 moves), therefore the last layer method still needs work.

Also, no shortcuts (e.g. recorded macros, edge turns, vertex turns) were used.
The edge/corner "parity" problems are inefficient with face-only turns, so I left them until last, which isn’t a good idea.
Identifying the pieces often took a while and positioning 3c/4c pairs too.

Well, I don’t know any other methods like roux or petrus so you can try solving the 3^4 using those methods.