Message #3074
From: Melinda Green <melinda@superliminal.com>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Snowcrash and Permutation City
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 04:25:46 -0800
You read it in one sitting‽ That’s impressive, especially with some of 
the challenging concepts involved. As far as simulations within 
simulations, I don’t recall it going very deep, but then as a 
programmer, I’m used to increasing computer power allowing for endless 
layering of technologies.
Just so this conversation doesn’t go completely off-topic, Egan’s book 
"Diaspora" is sort of a follow-up to Permutation City, and involves some 
people choosing to modify themselves in order to live in some 
higher-dimensional universes, so there seems to be no limit to how deep 
this rabbit hole goes!
BTW, I would like to suggest that everyone sign your messages because 
Yahoo no longer seems to include the sender’s address. Thanks all!
-Melinda
On 2/27/2015 2:04 AM, Vasily Vladimirovich Vylkov vasily@gatech.edu 
[4D_Cubing] wrote:
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> I read through the whole of Permutation City in one sitting.  Wow – 
> thanks again for the link.  At some point it gets kind of tiring (how 
> many simulations within simulations within simulations could there 
> be…) but overall I haven’t been so engrossed in a book since I read 
> Hyperion (Simmons) or maybe Murakami (e.g. Norwegian Wood); it had 
> that sort of dreamlike melancholy.
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> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Vasily Vladimirovich Vylkov 
> <vasily@gatech.edu <mailto:vasily@gatech.edu>> wrote:
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>     That Snow Crash book was more than a little over-the-top Tarantino
>     spaghetti western B-movie style bombastic, but I think I will also
>     give Stephenson the benefit of the doubt – that it was a
>     stylistic choice to write that way, and not necessarily
>     amateurish.  (I do remember being bewildered at first, at how
>     blatantly unrealistic some of the action was!  : )
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>     On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:00 AM, David Vanderschel
>     DvdS@Austin.RR.com <mailto:DvdS@Austin.RR.com> [4D_Cubing]
>     <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>         Melinda’s comment got me curious about Second Life.  I had
>         never paid much attention.  Then I found a contradiction of
>         Melinda’s claim from Second Life creator Philip Rosedale
>         himself, here:
>         http://freakonomics.com/2007/12/13/philip-rosedale-answers-your-second-life-questions/
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>             Q: Have you ever read Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson? I
>             don’t know much about Second Life but it sounds similar to
>             the Metaverse in the fiction novel.
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>             A: When Snow Crash came out, I was already really intent
>             on the idea of creating a virtual world like Second Life —
>             I had been thinking about it and doing what small
>             experiments I could since I was in college. But Snow Crash
>             certainly painted a compelling picture of what such a
>             virtual world could look like in the near future, and I
>             found that inspiring.
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>         I guess I am only quibbling about the definite article.  He
>         did find it inspiring, but he had already been inspired; so it
>         was not _the_ inspiration.
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>         Unlike Melinda, I did not find Stephenson’s writing to be
>         amateurish. However, I did take it to be deliberately absurd
>         and satirically comical.  I liked Snow Crash a lot, laughed a
>         lot.  I still occasionally recommend it to people.
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>         Regards,
>           David V.
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>         On 2/9/2015 7:10 PM, Melinda Green melinda@superliminal.com
>         <mailto:melinda@superliminal.com> [4D_Cubing] wrote:
>>         Snowcrash’s metaverse was the inspiration for Second Life
>>         which I helped develop for a couple of years.
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