Message #3137
From: "alvin55531 ." <alvin5553@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicCube5D Stickers
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:35:16 -0400
So the stickers in MC7D, normally, would be 6D stickers, but since that
would be too complicated, 3D stickers are used instead.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Roice Nelson roice3@gmail.com [4D_Cubing]
<4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Sure, they could. They could also be dots: see some MC6D pictures
> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/photos/albums/1099782835>
> in the pictures area, where I drew stickers as dots because 5D-stickers
> would look excessively complicated. If you look at Don’s ND-solver code
> <http://www.plunk.org/~hatch/MagicCubeNdSolve/>, he uses text characters
> for stickers, which is yet another possibility. They could even be tiny
> little cats if we wanted, as long as the combinatorics of the puzzle
> remained accurate :)
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> I think it is somewhat of an aesthetic choice. If you make them cubes, I
> would argue that is less faithful to the nature of the puzzle. The
> stickers are 4D, so why not draw them that way? What Melinda described
> would be faithful as well in my opinion. A *downside* to making them
> appear 3D is that it might end up causing confusion for some folks when
> first exposed to the puzzle.
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> In MC7D, stickers are excessively complicated too, so Andrey made some
> choices to cull things out to make usage tractable. It seems necessary to
> make some simplification there. Do you have a reason to prefer cubes over
> hypercubes in MC5D?
>
> Roice
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:29 AM, ‘alvin55531 .’ alvin5553@gmail.com
> [4D_Cubing] <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Can the stickers be not tesseract but just cubes? If every single sticker
>> on MC5D were replaced with stickers similar to MC4D, I don’t think it would
>> make a difference except for the fact that the stickers in the center would
>> be covered by stickers on top of it.
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>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Melinda Green melinda@superliminal.com
>> [4D_Cubing] <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> I like that the wireframe stickers are obviously tesseracts, and it may
>>> be useful to be able to see through them, however I also like your idea of
>>> solid stickers. An accurate display would not necessarily be simple cubes.
>>> Rather, they would be the unions of the projections of their cubic faces.
>>> -Melinda
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2015 2:34 PM, ‘alvin55531 .’ alvin5553@gmail.com [4D_Cubing]
>>> wrote:
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>>> The stickers in MC5D are wireframe tesseract, which makes sense since
>>> the stickers for MC4D are 3d cubes and the rubik’s cube has "2D" stickers.
>>> But would the puzzle be the same if the stickers were cubes instead of
>>> tesseracts, just like MC7D individual stickers. I don’t see how it would
>>> make a difference.
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