Message #3549
From: Roice Nelson <roice3@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: MagicTile Solving
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:27:36 -0500
Ed et al.,
Thanks again for pushing the boundaries of MagicTile.
I just finished adding 45 new spherical puzzles, a number of new slicings
of the platonic solids and five new "orbifold" colorings (I’m thinking I
may move the orbifolds to their own folder). I also update the wiki
<http://wiki.superliminal.com/wiki/MagicTile_Solutions_-_Elliptical> with
blank spaces for all the new puzzles. The total number of puzzles in
MagicTile now lists as 856. I tried to make the new puzzles interesting,
but if any of them seem ugly, let me know and I’ll remove them.
Enjoy!
Roice
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Roice Nelson <roice3@gmail.com> wrote:
> That’s awesome Ed, congrats to you and the other solvers!!
>
> It sounds like I need to configure some more sphere puzzle slicings this
> weekend :D Maybe there is even another coloring akin to the {3,5} 8-Color
> puzzle waiting to be discovered.
>
> Cheers,
> Roice
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 5:07 PM, ‘Eduard Baumann’ ed.baumann@bluewin.ch
> [4D_Cubing] <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
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>> The MagicTile groupe "elliptic sphere" is now completely solved !
>>
>> The last not solved puzzle was
>> *eb_MT_ell_sph_cube_fev111 (Super Chop)*
>>
>> It took me 56672 twists.
>>
>> Here is an illustration of the puzzle near finishing:
>> http://www.baumanneduard.ch/MagicTile/*eb_MT_ell_sph_cube_fev111*.PNG
>> <http://www.baumanneduard.ch/MagicTile/eb_MT_ell_sph_cube_fev111.PNG>
>>
>> In the next groupe "elliptic projective" there are 14 unsolved puzzles.
>>
>> Standings between Ed and Michael
>>
>> Ed Mike
>> ell 117 111
>> eucl 64 116
>> hyp 194 267
>> irp+skew 83 87
>> tot 458 581
>>
>> Best regards
>> Ed
>>
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>>
>> —– Original Message —–
>> *From:* Melinda Green melinda@superliminal.com [4D_Cubing]
>> <melinda@superliminal.com+[4D_Cubing]>
>> *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:19 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] Re: MagicTile Solving
>>
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>> I hadn’t considered simply avoiding the broken locations, thinking I was
>> going to need multiple versions for each rotation. Maybe I’ll see if I can
>> just use set-up moves to use the locations that do work.
>>
>> On 10/25/2016 1:47 PM, ‘Eduard Baumann’ ed.baumann@bluewin.ch
>> [4D_Cubing] wrote:
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>>
>> Ah.
>> I do it always with macros. Eventually they work not at every place. In
>> this case you must use the perhaps 50% working places.
>> Best regards
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> —– Original Message —–
>> *From:* Melinda Green melinda@superliminal.com [4D_Cubing]
>> <melinda@superliminal.com%20[4D_Cubing]>
>> *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:32 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] Re: MagicTile Solving
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the encouragement, Ed. I started to do it but most of my
>> macros didn’t work and I really don’t want to do it without them. Roice
>> understands the issue involving non-orientable puzzles but the fixes
>> (keeping track of orientation) appear more difficult than he’s ready to
>> take on at the moment.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Melinda
>>
>> On 10/25/2016 7:46 AM, ‘Eduard Baumann’ ed.baumann@bluewin.ch
>> [4D_Cubing] wrote:
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>>
>> First 79 entries in the Mathologer MT Challenge Hall of Fame:
>>
>> Only 2 women !? (Marie and Marie-Chantal)
>>
>> Melinda please, change this weard statistics ;-)
>> [At least three M’s instead of two Marie’s]
>>
>> Best regars
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> —– Original Message —–
>> *From:* Melinda Green melinda@superliminal.com [4D_Cubing]
>> <melinda@superliminal.com%20[4D_Cubing]>
>> *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2016 2:34 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] Re: MagicTile Solving
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you so much for breaking up the MT solutions wiki page! It had
>> gotten *way *out of control.
>>
>> I bet Ed’s 1M+ twist solution will strain a few things. It will be a
>> great test case. Good luck Ed!
>>
>> Finally, congratulations on 100k+ video views. That happened pretty
>> quickly. Maybe even faster than the 4D video.
>>
>> Great stuff everyone!
>> -Melinda
>>
>> On 10/22/2016 9:37 AM, Roice Nelson roice3@gmail.com [4D_Cubing] wrote:
>>
>> Super cool, both of you! Ed, will this be the first solve you’ve done
>> with >1M moves? I can’t recall if there have been others.
>>
>> An update on the Mathologer video and Klein bottle challenge… Last
>> night, the video crossed 100,000 views, which is pretty cool. We have 25
>> slots left in the challenge at the moment, and solutions have slowed quite
>> a bit. They are currently coming in about one a day, so I’m guessing there
>> will be at least a few weeks (likely longer) before it is full. I took the
>> challenge myself (solver #49) and it was great fun - more difficult than I
>> anticipated, with some surprising configurations. If you haven’t tried it,
>> try it. You’ll be glad you did!
>>
>> http://roice3.org/magictile/mathologer
>>
>> I’m doing some wiki updates right now. I’ve already split the solutions
>> page into 3 separate pages, and am working on getting the puzzle list up to
>> date with the current set of puzzles.
>>
>> http://wiki.superliminal.com/wiki/MagicTile_v2_Solutions
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Roice
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 4:02 AM, ‘Eduard Baumann’ ed.baumann@bluewin.ch
>> [4D_Cubing] <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
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>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> Wow!
>>>
>>> Congratulations.
>>>
>>> Do you think that Mathologer Challenge hall of fame reaches 100 items?
>>>
>>> You are very economic.
>>>
>>> I’m solving "*MT ell isoca fev111 (Big Chop)*" actually and I will
>>> reach about a million turns.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> —– Original Message —–
>>> *From:* qqwref@yahoo.com [4D_Cubing]
>>> *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2016 2:22 AM
>>> *Subject:* [MC4D] Re: MagicTile Solving
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Coming back with two huge but easy puzzles on {7,3}, and cleaning up a
>>> lot of similar {4,4} puzzles (Torus/Klein/Skew).
>>>
>>> {4,4} Torus 8-color F0.33:0:1 - 364 turns
>>> {4,4} Torus 8-Color F0:2:0 - 388 turns
>>> {4,4} Torus 9-Color F0:2:0 - 260 turns
>>> {4,4} Torus 16-Color F0:2:0 - 446 turns
>>>
>>> {4,4} Klein 9-Color F0.33:0:1 - 312 turns
>>> {4,4} Klein 9-Color F0:2:0 - 286 turns
>>>
>>> {7,3} 24-Color F1.4:0:0 F1.6:0:0 V1.4:0:0 V1.6:0:0 - 9477 turns
>>> {7,3} 24-Color V1.3:0:0 V1.6:0:0 - 2110 turns
>>>
>>> {4,4|3} 9-Color F0:2:0 - 270 turns
>>> {4,4|4} 16-Color F0:2:0 - 468 turns
>>> {4,4|5} 25-Color F0:2:0 - 1178 turns
>>> {4,4|6} 36-Color F0:2:0 - 1402 turns
>>> {4,4|7} 49-Color F0:2:0 - 2946 turns
>>>
>>> – Michael Gottlieb
>>>
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