Message #3675

From: mananself@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: Introduction of the 307th solver
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 05:14:16 +0000

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—In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, <melinda@…> wrote :

So do you think note taking, or referring to notes during the solve should be allowed or not?

• If notes are algorithms, then it falls into "macro / no macro" discussion. They are just two levels of accomplishments. I don’t know what kind of notes someone would take for blindfolded solve, if the notes are not algorithms.
  

I could disable the fanfare on solve in the blindfold version of MC4D if anything feels it is important. It’s a hacked version because the way I implemented was too ugly to put in the official version. Of course solvers filming themselves can always pause and declare "This will be my final twist" and then we get to see what happens!

• Ideally MC4D can have an official "blindfold" mode. After users click "scramble", they can inspect the colored stickers, changing views in 3D and 4D. Then they can press a "put on blindfold" button, which grays stickers. Then users can twist it. Fanfare wouldn’t show up this way. They can click another "take off blindfold" button, which brings the colors back. It’ll show fanfare if it’s solved.
  

Thanks Nan!

-Melinda

On 2/27/2017 7:10 PM, mananself@… mailto:mananself@… [4D_Cubing] wrote:

Here’s an old blindfold thread from 2011: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/conversations/messages/1860 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/conversations/messages/1860

I blindfolded 2^4 with macros. I didn’t feel it was a big challenge because of the use of macros. I didn’t attempt any blindfold solve without macros.

I also summarized the steps here:
http://wiki.superliminal.com/wiki/Main_Page#Blindfolded_Solving http://wiki.superliminal.com/wiki/Main_Page#Blindfolded_Solving

Since the amount of information in 3^4 ( 120 digits ) is about six times that of 3^3 (20 digits), 3^4 is way out of reach my memorization skill. But a good MultiBLD player should be able to do it. 2^4, however, has only 28 digits of information, which is less than 1.5 Rubik’s Cubes. That’ ;s why I was able to do it.

Normally blindfold solvers end the solving by themselves, and if the cube is actually not solved, it’s an DNF. The catch of hypercubing is that so far all the software I know recognize the solved state and pops a dialog when it’s done, even if all stickers are gray. So theoretically a blindfold solve can be like attempt -> if not recognized, undo until the beginning -> attempt again. As Melinda mentioned earlier, we can create a Blindfold mode in MC4D to fix this issue.

Nan