Message #3686

Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: Introduction of the 307th solver
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 18:53:08 +0000

Maybe I should rephrase "depending on permutation". I mean "depending on this particular scramble".

So the first category = pre-scramble. Second category = post-scramble.

Therefore if the set-up moves are prepared before you see this particular scramble, that’s the first category. For example, one can build a library of set up moves as macros, pretty much like the library of PLL and OLL moves.
However, after you see this scramble, you’ll know which set-up moves are needed in which order. At this time if you record these set-up moves, that’s the second category.


—In, <melinda@…> wrote :

What category do macro set-up moves fall into? They are part of macro use, yet permutation-specific.

On 2/28/2017 10:30 PM, mananself@… mailto:mananself@… [4D_Cubing] wrote:

About note taking, let’s separate it to the notes that do not depend on the permutation, and those that do.

All the PLL, OLL algorithms fall into the first category. People spend a long time memorize them into long term memory and even muscle memory. Given enough time to practice, we can all learn many algorithms. This is not the real challenge of blindfolded solves. Usual macros also fall into this category.

The steps to cycle pieces, or the orientation of the pieces, fall into the second category. One needs to put them to short term memory. This is a memorization game, like memorizing a deck of cards. I consider this the essence of blindfolded solves, which differentiates them from speed solving. For this reason, I would consider taking such notes legit only if you take them, memorize them and throw them away before you make turns. Of course, for practice it’s fine to make turns according to notes. But in a real B LD solve, you should not look at the permutation-dependent notes.


—In, <melinda@…> mailto:melinda@… wrote :

Use this special edition version of MC4D with which you can toggle the blindfolding using <ctrl>d. Note-taking sounds fine to me, though others should speak up if they have opinions or specific suggestions. Best would be to take notes by hand on a piece of paper that you show is blank before beginning.

On 2/27/2017 5:20 PM, jldanie5@… mailto:jldanie5@… [4D_Cubing] wrote:

I’m also interested in doing the 3^4 blind. Would written or typed notes be allowed? I assume you would just gray out the cube and solve it from that point after taking notes/memorizing.

-Joshua Daniels