Message #2397

From: Eduard Baumann <baumann@mcnet.ch>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:10:35 +0200

Perfect!

I have replayed your 18 last twists which do a single 3-cycle (compared to my 28 twist macro).
There is a 4 fold twist within. So I can shorten your solution from 199 to 197 twist.

But you say that you have a 10 twist single 3-cycle. Awesome!

I have inserted you in the wiki MT HOF. Now you appear 2 times there. Please continue!

Kind regards
Ed

—– Original Message —–
From: andreyastrelin
To: 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge

Solved: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/4D_Cubing/files/Andrey/gem3_aa.xml .
199 twists, using some 10-twist 3-cycle :)

Andrey

— In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, Melinda Green <melinda@…> wrote:
>
> Who will be first and who will be shortest?
> 3..2..1.. Go!
>
> On 9/14/2012 2:58 AM, Eduard Baumann wrote:
> > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Eduard Baumann included below]
> >
> > Here is a fully scrambled log file containing my 3-cycle
> > hidden in the middle somewhere.
> > I have deleted the history and also deleted the macro which is
> > normally saved with log file.
> > Kind regards
> > Ed
> >
> > —– Original Message —–
> > *From:* Melinda Green <mailto:melinda@…>
> > *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 12:47 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
> >
> > Nice find, Eduard! I especially like that it is non-orientable in
> > addition to being small.
> >
> > How about you create a fully scrambled log file containing your
> > 3-cycle
> > hidden in the middle somewhere and then share it with the group?
> > We will
> > then see who can solve it. I just confirmed that you can erase the
> > scrambling history from the log file by deleting everything
> > between the
> > <Block> and </Block> tags. That will make it a fair contest. It
> > doesn’t
> > seem to give the "ding" sound when you solve it that way but it
> > seems to
> > work fine otherwise.
> >
> > -Melinda
> >
> > On 9/13/2012 12:48 AM, Eduard wrote:
> > > I’m very surprised to encounter a tiny MagicTile puzzle
> > presenting a BIG challenge ! It’s "MT eucl klein {3,6} 8 v 0:0:1".
> > It has only 12 two-color elements but the commutator moves 6
> > elements (double 3-cycle) and has only 6 fixed elements. To create
> > a single 3-cycle you have to find a setup which moves 5 moving
> > elements on the 6 fixed places. Possibly you can solve this puzzle
> > by chance when scrambled with few moves. But if I give you a
> > scrambling with my 28 move single 3-cycle you have to do the job.
> >
>