Message #2398

From: Melinda Green <melinda@superliminal.com>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:32:19 -0700

Awesome indeed, but that’s only what we’ve come to expect from Andrey!
So tell us, Andrey, any interesting challenges or thoughts about this
diabolic gem? When I work with it, it seems so interconnected that I
destroy any order about as fast as I can create it.

-Melinda

On 9/25/2012 4:10 AM, Eduard Baumann wrote:
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> Perfect!
> I have replayed your 18 last twists which do a single 3-cycle
> (compared to my 28 twist macro).
> There is a 4 fold twist within. So I can shorten your solution from
> 199 to 197 twist.
> But you say that you have a 10 twist single 3-cycle. Awesome!
> I have inserted you in the wiki MT HOF. Now you appear 2 times there.
> Please continue!
> Kind regards
> Ed
>
> —– Original Message —–
> *From:* andreyastrelin <mailto:andreyastrelin@yahoo.com>
> *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
>
> Solved:
> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/4D_Cubing/files/Andrey/gem3_aa.xml
> .
> 199 twists, using some 10-twist 3-cycle :)
>
> Andrey
>
> — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com>, Melinda Green <melinda@…> wrote:
> >
> > Who will be first and who will be shortest?
> > 3..2..1.. Go!
> >
> > On 9/14/2012 2:58 AM, Eduard Baumann wrote:
> > > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Eduard Baumann included below]
> > >
> > > Here is a fully scrambled log file containing my 3-cycle
> > > hidden in the middle somewhere.
> > > I have deleted the history and also deleted the macro which is
> > > normally saved with log file.
> > > Kind regards
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > —– Original Message —–
> > > *From:* Melinda Green <mailto:melinda@…>
> > > *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:4D_Cubing%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:4D_Cubing%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 12:47 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
> > >
> > > Nice find, Eduard! I especially like that it is non-orientable in
> > > addition to being small.
> > >
> > > How about you create a fully scrambled log file containing your
> > > 3-cycle
> > > hidden in the middle somewhere and then share it with the group?
> > > We will
> > > then see who can solve it. I just confirmed that you can erase the
> > > scrambling history from the log file by deleting everything
> > > between the
> > > <Block> and </Block> tags. That will make it a fair contest. It
> > > doesn’t
> > > seem to give the "ding" sound when you solve it that way but it
> > > seems to
> > > work fine otherwise.
> > >
> > > -Melinda
> > >
> > > On 9/13/2012 12:48 AM, Eduard wrote:
> > > > I’m very surprised to encounter a tiny MagicTile puzzle
> > > presenting a BIG challenge ! It’s "MT eucl klein {3,6} 8 v 0:0:1".
> > > It has only 12 two-color elements but the commutator moves 6
> > > elements (double 3-cycle) and has only 6 fixed elements. To create
> > > a single 3-cycle you have to find a setup which moves 5 moving
> > > elements on the 6 fixed places. Possibly you can solve this puzzle
> > > by chance when scrambled with few moves. But if I give you a
> > > scrambling with my 28 move single 3-cycle you have to do the job.
> > >
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